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Rick Rodgers's avatar

OK, gang...here's the deal. Of course I agree with the "credit" comments. But did anyone go after Nagi for "stealing" a common recipe called Millionaire's Shortbread? That is what her Caramel Slice is, with a swap of some coconut for some flour. That recipe was first published in the 90s in an Australian magazine and the cookie has a deeper influence in Oz and the UK than the US. Google the recipe...it has hundreds of manifestations--Preppy Kitchen just did a video on it.

Nagi cannot win her case in the US. There have been precedents, and the plaintiff's wins were based on the verbatim use of the recipe text, not the formula of the ingredients list, which has been proven to be non-copyrightable. Richard Olney sued Richard Nelson and won (settled out of court) in the 70s. https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=616c3194-d55b-4c53-a4ba-8ef64b57fe72

Another high-profile case was the late Chinese cooking expert, Barbara Tropp vs. Martha Stewart. Martha had published a sweet-sour eggplant dish called Strange-Flavor Eggplant, which was Barbara's. And there were two other recipes. Barbara was able to prove that the eggplant recipe's title does not exist in the Chinese lexicon, and was her invention all-around. And she won.

Nagi's baklava is pretty similar to any baklava ever made. And if proper listing of ingredients in the order they are supposed to be used is good practice, you are going to see similar recipe lists.

What bothers me is that Brooki doesn't seem to have any scruples about stealing or "sharing" recipes. My recipes, especially my Viennese ones, are all over the web. When I have the energy, I reach out to the blogger. Usually, they have stolen the recipe from a previous poster anyway! But what do I publish recipes for if not to impact the reader in some (hopefully good) way?

A lot of grief could have been avoided if basic standards of decency (like not stealing in general) would have been followed.

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Martin Sorge's avatar

Part of being a great baker is learning to identify quality recipes. Some recipes, like pie crust, shortbread, and, like Rick says, Millionaire's Shortbread, have been around for so long that it's hard to be entirely original. I realized this in the writing of my book. I have so many great bakers to thank for inspiring my recipes, and in the headnotes of my cookbook, I do my best to credit those folks who taught me a technique, ratio, flavor combination, or other aspect of a recipe.

Even though I'm a newish recipe writer, I've already had a couple of well-known writers steal some of my recipes without credit. Alternatively, other writers asked permission to adopt parts of my recipes, with credit given (I always say yes). I think it depends on whether you're a writer who comes from a place of collaboration, abundance, and generosity or competition, gatekeeping, and scarcity.

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